Question:
wireless router N help?
Forth
2012-08-04 06:27:18 UTC
hello, i have bought a linksys router e2000 and it is N wireless compatable.
its all running well on 2.4ghz, what happens if i change to 5ghz?

the wireless router is 5 metres away from my pc and i have a linksys ae2000 usb wireless adapter attached to my pc. however i only get 4 bars signal in windows 7. why is that?

i have computers within the house that are also connected to the router and they also have 4 bars of signal too this is a little strange. maybe i dont quite uinderstand what N means, i thought it was better and stronger?

additional details:
Virgin media
10mb down speed stable connection
1mb up speed
Four answers:
johntrottier
2012-08-04 07:12:22 UTC
Couple of pointers

1. Remember that a wireless system has two parts, the master (in your case your new router) and the client (your wireless adapter)

You just go a new router, but did you upgrade your clients as well?

Because your router may be an N router, but unless the USB dongles are N as well, you cannot get N connectivity. All you can get is G.

2. there are several "flavors" of wireless N

Single band and dual band. Dual band, where both frequencies are used for data transmission , is the only way to get the maximum rated speeds from an N router. If only one frequency is used, your data rates will be lower.

Again, both the router and the dongle must have matching capabilities.



In general, please remember that wireless is for convenience, not performance. Wireless will never out perform a hard wired connection, no matter how you try.

If you need performance, go wired



Good Luck
2012-08-04 15:40:37 UTC
If I am not mistaken, I think the E2000 only came in Version 1.



You can flash DDWRT on that router and you can enhance it capabilities if you like. I have the same setup as you in my house.
andrew
2012-08-04 13:31:50 UTC
2.4 has more range



I think 5 ghz carries more data though. Which probably means faster
Please
2012-08-04 13:32:33 UTC
Unfortunately when deploying wireless LANs, we have to abide by the laws of physics. Wireless signals propagating through the air lose strength while encountering natural and obstacles.



In order to deploy an effective wireless LAN solution, installers must have a good understanding of the causes of signal loss (attenuation) and how to implement applicable countermeasures. This knowledge becomes extremely important when performing an RF site survey, which technicians use to determine the optimum location of access points to provide necessary range. With familiarity of RF attenuation, you'll accomplish RF site surveys more efficiently and get higher performing wireless network installations as a result.



Attenuation is simply a reduction of signal strength during transmission. You represent attenuation in decibels (dB), which is ten times the logarithm of the signal power at a particular input divided by the signal power at an output of a specified medium. For example, an office wall (i.e., medium) that changes the propagation of an RF signal from a power level of 200 milliwatts (the input) to 100 milliwatts (the output) represents 3 dB of attenuation. Consequently, positive attenuation causes signals to become weaker when traveling through the medium.



When signal power decreases to relatively low values, the receiving 802.11 radio will likely encounter bit errors when decoding the signal. This problem worsens when significant RF interference is present. The occurrence of bits errors causes the receiving 802.11 station to refrain from sending an acknowledgement to the source station. After a short period of time, the sending station will retransmit the frame, possibly at a lower data rate with hopes of extending the range of the transmission.



Excessive attenuation causes the network's throughput to decrease because of operation at a lower data rate and the additional overhead necessary to retransmit the frames. Generally, this means that the user is operating within the outer bounds of an access point's range. There's enough attenuation present to decrease signal power below acceptable values. At worst case, signal power loss due to attenuation becomes so low that affected users will lose connectivity to the network.

Causes of attenuation



Both signal frequency and range between the end points of the medium affect the amount of attenuation. As either frequency or range increases, attenuation increases. Unlike open outdoor applications based on straightforward free space loss formulas, attenuation for indoor systems is very complex to calculate. The main reason for this difficulty is that the indoor signals bounce off obstacles and penetrate a variety of materials that offer varying effects on attenuation.



Discussion of the various algorithms to estimate indoor path loss is beyond the scope of this article. As a general rule of thumb, however, expect to encounter approximately 100dB of attenuation over distances of 200 feet when using 802.11b radios operating at 11Mbps.



Counteracting attenuation



The main goal of combating attenuation is to avoid having signal power within the area where users operate to fall below the sensitivity of the 802.11 radio receivers. You need to ensure that the receiver is always able to hear the transmissions. Bear in mind also that higher levels of RF interference, such as that caused by 2.4GHz cordless phones or Bluetooth devices, will negatively impact the ability for the receiver to decode the signal. As RF interference signal levels become higher than 802.11 signals, an 802.11 receiver will encounter considerable bit errors when trying to demodulate the 802.11 signals.



You can use these concepts to help with planning the location of access points. When setting up access points to operate near their maximum range, be aware that obstacles such as walls will offer additional amounts of attenuation that could cause loss of connectivity. For example if you're planning the range of a particular access point to be 200 feet, then having a few walls in between the access point and users will cause an additional 9dB or more of attenuation, which could likely be enough to push the signal power down below the receiver's sensitivity. As a result, place your access points closer together to ensure adequate coverage.



It's nearly impossible to accurately determine the range of wireless signals through indoor facilities without performing some live testing. As a result, be sure to accomplish an RF site survey to verify location estimates. The use of an 802.11 radio along with site survey software with successful test results proves that signal levels are above minimum requirements. Also consider using a wireless LAN analyzer, such as AirMagnet or AiroPeek to measure signal power at various points throughout the facility to ensure signal power levels are well above the receiver sensitivity.


This content was originally posted on Y! Answers, a Q&A website that shut down in 2021.
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